I would like to see what some of you think about this movement that is spreading...


What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.

Lately, complaints about screaming kids are being taken seriously, not only by airlines, but by hotels, movie theaters, restaurants, and even grocery stores.

Read more about restaurants around the country banning kids.

Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.

According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.

"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.

Klara points to Leavethembehind.com, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.

"Call me a grinch, a misanthrope, a DINK (dual-income-no-kids), or the anti-cute-police, but I hate (hate a thousand times over) ill-behaved children/infants/screaming banshees in upscale restaurants (ok, anywhere, really, but I don’t want any death threats)," writes Charlotte Savino on Travel and Leisure's blog. She lists a slew of a popular destination restaurants with kid-free areas and policies for travelers looking for quiet vacation dining.

Traveling is one thing, but what about in kids' own hometowns? Should kids been banned from local movie theaters, like they were at a recent adults-only Harry Potter screening? In Texas, one cinema chain has even flipped the model, banning kids under six altogether, except on specified "baby days".

Even running errands with toddlers may be off limits. This summer Whole Foods stores in Missouri are offering child-free shopping hours and in Florida, a controversy brews over whether kids can be banned from a condominium's outdoor area. That's right, some people don't even want kids outdoors.

When did kids become the equivalent of second-hand smoke? Blame a wave of childless adults with money to spare. "Empty nesters continue to wield a huge swath of discretionary spending dollars, and population dips in first-world countries mean more childless couples than ever," writes AdWeek's Klara.

Catering to the child-free community may be good for business but is it good for parents? It could help narrow choices and make kid-friendly environments even kid-friendlier. And let's be honest, babies won't miss flying first class. They won't even remember it. But their moms and dads will.

Most parents with young children have self-imposed limits on spending and leisure. This new movement imposes limits set by the public. And the public isn't as child-friendly as it used to be. As businesses respond to their new breed of 'first-class' clientele, are parents in danger of becoming second-class citizens?

The no-kids movement

Ha ha , that makes me want to have more kids. I love kids, and we all were kids once. If we acted up dad threatened us with the belt. (Only took one time getting the belt after that when he said belt u listened. Lol) Today if you smack your kids you go to jail. I don't believe that there are bad kids just bad parents. That's my opinion.

I am with you on that Rrudzi some people need to realize that the kids are the ones that are going to be here to keep them going.

I agree 100%! Most kids are acting worse because both parents are working full time, just to pay the bills, and they have strangers or camps or daycares watching their kids. When they do see their kids they want them to be happy and enjoyable so the belt threat is gone. Children are more spoiled with technology now then any geh=neration ever was and dont have to spend as much time interacting with other kids because if their in front of the TV Ipad Xbox Computer or whatever they are quiet and content, leading busy and or bad parents to think everything is alright and their child is happy. Dinners are no longer had while sitting at the table as a family on a regular basis. Dance class, Soccer, Lacrosse, Karate, tutors, cheerleading, football, and every other activity they do can only fall after work and school, so homework time is about the only chance during the week you can interact for any lenght of time.

Im not saying this is everybody, but this is pretty common and I know of a couple of families that eat take out food 6 nights a week even in the summer because they are so busy running their 3 kids around.

We do what the times dictate we need to do, and now dual income is the only way to make it, but I sure wish my kids could grow up just like I did, Mom home all day, one sport or activity, a neighborhood full of other kids, some friend some not, but we dealt with it. No crazy paranoia about kidnappings, and worse. It helped make me who I am.

Sorry for the rant, I just feel bad for the kids, this is a tough world to grow up in.

Bad parents not the kids fault. Im a stay at dad and im telling you my three yr and one yr girls are absolutley perfect in public. It would be ashame good parenting will suffer the wrath of bad parenting once again iff we were banned from places

Yep, it's not the kids at all. Lazy parents. Someone tells me I can't bring my little girls somewhere, F ya! YOu aint getting my business!

yep go ahead and blame the parents you might be right. I dont care why a kid is crying or causing a problem. I dont want to hear it. I should not have to hear it. Im all for the movement. I love america.

If the movement passes there should be no smoking in public places. I don't like the smoke! No chewing tobacco, I don't wanna see the spit! No pets allowed anywhere, no senior cititsens, they are old and get in the way.... whatever

One thing you may want to think about is that you were a kid yourself once. Quit frankly if there was not kids out there eventuly there will be no adults as well. If you were to ask me if there are some out there complaining about how kids are acting you need to remember that the kids have rights to just like you do and if a family with kids was at a location before you then remove your self from the saituation like an adult not expect everyone to turn their backs on all the kids.

I do agree with the thought that most parents are not keeping their kids under control but there is still no reason to punish the kids and families that are doing their best because of some bad apples out there.

I LOVE KIDS.... REALLY I DO. I LIKE PEACE AND QUIET ALSO.