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04 ram programmer opinions #1449
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Diablo sport or superchips? They both seem ok... anyone?

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #1452
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BULLYDOG is the way to go.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: ZIGGYONTHEGRIZZ] #1453
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Is it diesel or gas? If it's a diesel, the Smarty programmer hands down.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: alltorquedup] #1680
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yes the smarty chip i have to love it

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Is it an early 04 or an 04.5? I hear the Smarty is better on the later common rails (04.5+) but not necessarily on the 03-04 trucks. I think i've read that Bully Dog or Edge is pretty good on the 03-04 trucks? I have an 06 with a Smarty and I like it.


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Edge juice with attitude. Great product.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3419
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The smarty is ok i have it on my truck now. But hands down if you want to make power the Edge juice with attitude is the way to go. the smarty works good but it sucks, you can not change your power as you drive you have to stop shut the truck off and re load every thing. Takes like 10 min. the Edge juice with attitude just push the button as you drive.. and rool some coal... if you have any ??? just ask.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3428
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I have to slightly disagree. I don't think the Edge is better for making power. The most you can get out of the Edge is 160 hp and you have to pay an extra $100 to get to that level with the hot unlock. My Smarty makes up to an extra 230 hp and it has more adjust-ability. I do agree that it is a big pain to stop and turn the truck off to reload levels and the edge is just a push of the button on the fly, but if you want power go Smarty. If you want a great overall package but huge HP isn't your main concern, go Edge. I've had both so this is from experience. As for which of the two you mentioned is better? I have no experience with those but I think you will be happy with either. Anything will make these trucks come alive.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: CTD06] #3446
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How are you getting 230hp out of your smarty?

Here is the paper work right out of my box.



2000' Excalibur 565ci-625hp BBC
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Smarty POD 4" stright pipe, Cold air kit and all the smog s h i t long gone.
01 Banshee
07 OutLaw 525 IRS
04 sportman 700
2010 Can-Am ds250
1979 ford f350 460 with 500hp, 15" lift with 44x19.5 boggers.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3447
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Here is my 01 with the edge.


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2000' Excalibur 565ci-625hp BBC
07.5 Dodge Ram 2500 C.T.D
Smarty POD 4" stright pipe, Cold air kit and all the smog s h i t long gone.
01 Banshee
07 OutLaw 525 IRS
04 sportman 700
2010 Can-Am ds250
1979 ford f350 460 with 500hp, 15" lift with 44x19.5 boggers.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3448
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Here is the edge Numbers..

Level 0: Stock
Level 1: 25 Horsepower - 80 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 2: 40 Horsepower - 120 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 3: 60 Horsepower - 150 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 4: 80 Horsepower - 200 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 5: 100 Horsepower - 250 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 6: 180* Horsepower – 440* Foot Pounds of Torque
Hot Unlock Code plus additional fee required for level 6. For pricing information and to get the unlock code you must complete a waiver located under hot unlock form.



2000' Excalibur 565ci-625hp BBC
07.5 Dodge Ram 2500 C.T.D
Smarty POD 4" stright pipe, Cold air kit and all the smog s h i t long gone.
01 Banshee
07 OutLaw 525 IRS
04 sportman 700
2010 Can-Am ds250
1979 ford f350 460 with 500hp, 15" lift with 44x19.5 boggers.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3449
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Here is Smartys Numbers.

SW # 0 : Half power

SW # 1 : 30 Hp increase, with added timing .

SW # 2 : 60 Hp increase, no added timing.

SW # 3 : 60 Hp increase, with added timing.

SW # 4 : 90 Hp increase, no added timing.

SW # 5 : 90 Hp increase, with added timing.

SW # 6 : 130 Hp increase, no added timing.

SW # 7 : 130 Hp increase, with added timing.

SW # 8 : 170 Hp increase, no added timing.

SW # 9 : 170 Hp increase, with added timing.




2000' Excalibur 565ci-625hp BBC
07.5 Dodge Ram 2500 C.T.D
Smarty POD 4" stright pipe, Cold air kit and all the smog s h i t long gone.
01 Banshee
07 OutLaw 525 IRS
04 sportman 700
2010 Can-Am ds250
1979 ford f350 460 with 500hp, 15" lift with 44x19.5 boggers.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3450
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All the numbers were based on a 05.
with the edge you pay for number 6 but it can make more power....Not much but more... I would like to know where or how you get 230hp Or are you talking about the Torque?


2000' Excalibur 565ci-625hp BBC
07.5 Dodge Ram 2500 C.T.D
Smarty POD 4" stright pipe, Cold air kit and all the smog s h i t long gone.
01 Banshee
07 OutLaw 525 IRS
04 sportman 700
2010 Can-Am ds250
1979 ford f350 460 with 500hp, 15" lift with 44x19.5 boggers.

Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3455
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I'm talking about the free download on MADS site for the Smarty TNT software. Yes the Smarty only comes standard with 170hp but for FREE, you just download the TNT software and it bumps up to 230hp. If you go on MADS site and under downloads (I have the S-06) and click on the free TNT download, it says right in the disclaimer, 100hp on the lowest setting and 230 additional hp on level 9. Under the description for the programmers (at least on the S-06), those hp numbers are numbers off of a dyno as well. Not estimated but actual on a stock truck.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: CTD06] #3459
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Ok you got me on that. But i think he wants something he can run on a stock truck and get some great power and not tear up his truck. i am talking about the real world here for a normal truck. sure he can do all of that. and go out and spend $8k on another trans $3k on a turbo and all the other good that come along with that kind of mods. He is not going to make a sled puller just an every day driver that he wants to smoke a chevy with at the stop light....LOL... so it would be a FREE down load for another $15k in extra parts to make it a good relible every day atv or camper puller.

Right off of smartys page..

IMPORTANT!
The TNT software you are about to access IS DANGEROUS
to the stock engine and drivetrain!

The TNT software has been written for trucks with extensive modifications!

The horsepower levels start around 100 Hp on CaTCHER # 1 and reach 230 additional Hp on
CaTCHER # 9.
These HP gains are referred to a “close to stock” engine but depending on your modifications can
be more. With correctly modified and tuned engines we have seen gains in the 400+ Hp range
above the stock software. On the higher settings a stock engine can NOT take full advantage of it
because the fuel and air supply from the stock parts are simply not enough.
Aftermaket, turbo, injectors, lift pump, injection pump, automatic transmission AT LEAST are
required!
Also a good insurance against valve float at high boost levels is a good set of stiffer valve springs.
If you need valve springs or not, depends upon several factors like max boost pressure reached,
rev range and of course the mileage of the stock springs.





2000' Excalibur 565ci-625hp BBC
07.5 Dodge Ram 2500 C.T.D
Smarty POD 4" stright pipe, Cold air kit and all the smog s h i t long gone.
01 Banshee
07 OutLaw 525 IRS
04 sportman 700
2010 Can-Am ds250
1979 ford f350 460 with 500hp, 15" lift with 44x19.5 boggers.

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