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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3468
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All I was doing was showing you that the Edge does NOT make more power than the Smarty. I didn't say Edge was bad. In actuality the Edge is even more hp than what is recommended on a stock truck. Stock Dodge transmissions are only good for another 35hp or so over stock. Even an Allison is only good for about 65hp over stock, RELIABLY. Sure people do more but that's what I've heard is safe. So really, the Edge is just as bad for a stock truck on those high settings. Smarty is just actually putting it in writing so nobody can blame them for blowing their truck up. When I had my Edge, my transmission slipped on the higher settings and it was just a NORMAL daily driven stock truck. And if he's going to plan on smoking any Duramax's, he better plan on a new transmission anyways because it wont last long if it's stock and your racing on higher settings. So I wouldn't point the fingers at just Smarty because Edge is just as capable at destroying truck parts as any other (by the way, I didn't spend any where near 8k on my heavy duty transmission, not even half, and you can get very good turbos for well under 3k.....just saying).

If you read my first post in this thread, I said that I believe the Edge or Bully Dog tuners are better for the 03-04 trucks. And I meant in terms of performance. Every truck is different.

If you want your truck to be reliable, leave it alone unless you want to pay. RELIABLE, FAST, CHEAP. You can pick two but you can't have all 3.

I think we have derailed this thread enough, so if you want to continue this discussion, PM me, because I don't want threads being locked or people being booted off.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3471
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derailed this thread, Ha Ha,I don't think so! you guys brought up a good argument, but we still don't know if original poster has a gasser or diesel! He hasn't reposted since he started this topic. I will use this info when I am in the market for a programer for my Dodge CTD after my warranty expires.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3479
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LOL I guess you're right. We don't know if he's got a gas or diesel.

No, Wheelie Man is right. The Edge system is a very good system to use. It's easy to install, easy to use and it already comes with a gauge pod and a bunch of safety options and alarms (it will defuel automatically if you reach your set safety boundries). So all in all it's a very good system. I was just stating that it will not make more power than the Smarty programmer, and I paid less for my Smarty than I did for my Edge. I did however, have to buy my Edge Insight to act as gauges with my Smarty, so in the end I probably did spend a bit more than the Juice w/attitude system, but I have a ton more power potential now, and the Edge can be just as dangerous as the Smarty.

I still stand by, "if you want your truck to be reliable, leave is alone" (other than maybe a few emmission deletes). This game is very addicting once you start adding power and see what these trucks can do, and it wont be cheap.

They are all pretty good programmers, superchips is a good programmer but not as popular in the diesel crowd. Diablo is a mean contender, Bully dog can be one of the best, along with Edge and Smarty. You almost have to try them all and see which you like best. Wheelie man likes his Edge better than his Smarty and I like my Smarty better than my Edge. It's all personal preference.

If it ends up that he is talking about a gasser, then I don't really have any idea because I don't have one, ha.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Rrudzi] #3493
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You do not have to wait for the warranty to expire. I went to the dodge shop where i got my truck. told them i was unhappy with the truck. (the MPG sucked) told them what i wanted to do with it, they said ok i had them wright it down and sign it. Now my 08 6.7 CTD has a cold air intake 4' stright pipe and the Smarty POD... Runs alot better but the MPG is still 1/2 of what my 01 got. My 01 had 200hp injectors ,super B turbo , 5" stright pipe , cold air kit, Edge Juice. and bald back tires. firedevil and it would pull any thing i put behind it. rockin





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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Wheelie man] #3506
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I will ask them. Every time I took my Duramax to the dealer before they would write up the RO, they plugged the scanner in to make sure I was using a GM program. With my Dodge I am not looking to make a race truck driving does what I ask it to but the MPG's Suck @ss. I would like a to reprogram whitout any deletes for better MPG's and go from there.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Rrudzi] #3517
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Just make sure you buy about a dozen spare tie rods and you should be covered for a year... lol!


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Rrudzi] #3524
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Originally Posted By: Rrudzi
I will ask them. Every time I took my Duramax to the dealer before they would write up the RO, they plugged the scanner in to make sure I was using a GM program. With my Dodge I am not looking to make a race truck driving does what I ask it to but the MPG's Suck @ss. I would like a to reprogram whitout any deletes for better MPG's and go from there.


You have an 2004 Ram? If so their should be NO deletes to do except, the muffler. And by Law it does not need that. If you go with the Smarty it does not leave any finger print behind. They never know it is there. unless you leve it in when you take it to them.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3525
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No I think he has a 2010


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: CTD06] #3535
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Originally Posted By: CTD06
No I think he has a 2010


Well the thread was called 04 ram programmer opinions... You got me...LOL...LOL..


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3538
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If the dealer looks hard enough they will know you had a smarty. No programmer is untraceable


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Wheelie man] #3549
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Originally Posted By: Wheelie man
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No I think he has a 2010


Well the thread was called 04 ram programmer opinions... You got me...LOL...LOL..

yes I know, sorry, thought I could ask a question.


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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Charlie] #3551
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You are more than welcome to ask questions. The guy that started the thread has an 04, but I'll try to help anyone with question.

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Re: 04 ram programmer opinions [Re: Rrudzi] #3556
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You can ask away. I was not sure and confused if he had 2010 than why name it "04 ram programmer opinions" No need to get up set here.


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