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ATV Connector Trail Study #40122
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Would you like to ride your ATV from the Snow Shoe Rails to Trails all the way to the Whiskey Springs ATV trails? It can happen! Read about the ATV Connector Trail Study being done by LARSON DESIGN GROUP to determine the feasibility of the most direct, environmentally sound, and sustainable connector trail possible between the Bloody Skillet and Whiskey Springs ATV trails.

Download and read about the connector trail study here:

http://www.docs.dcnr.pa.gov/cs/groups/public/documents/document/DCNR_20033209.pdf


If you enjoy riding ATVs and want to see this connector trail become a reality, you’re encouraged to attend a public meeting on either October 26, 2017 or November 9, 2017 from 6:00 to 8:00 PM at the Durrwachter Alumni Conference Center at Lock Haven University.

The objective of the meetings will be to review the findings of the connector trail study, unveil conceptual routes, and answer questions and concerns. Your participation is needed to make this happen. Local businesses and the ATV community envision the trail as an economic and tourism driver, which would benefit small towns throughout the route.

Questions and comments can be submitted through a dedicated email address at

ATVCONNECT@LARSONDESIGNGROUP.COM


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Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40154
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Meeting dates changes, here is the update


Would you like to ride your ATV from the Snow Shoe Rails to Trails all the way to the Whiskey Springs ATV trails? It can happen! Read about the ATV Connector Trail Study being done by LARSON DESIGN GROUP to determine the feasibility of the most direct, environmentally sound, and sustainable connector trail possible between the Bloody Skillet and Whiskey Springs ATV trails.

Download and read about the connector trail study here: http://www.docs.dcnr.pa.gov/cs/groups/public/documents/document/DCNR_20033209.pdf

If you enjoy riding ATVs and want to see this connector trail become a reality, you’re encouraged to attend a public meeting on either December 12, 2017 or December 19, 2017 from 6:00 to 8:00 PM at the Durrwachter Alumni Conference Center at Lock Haven University.

The meetings scheduled for October 26th and November 9th have been cancelled.

The objective of the meetings will be to review the findings of the connector trail study, unveil conceptual routes, and answer questions and concerns. Your participation is needed to make this happen. Local businesses and the ATV community envision the trail as an economic and tourism driver, which would benefit small towns throughout the route.

Questions and comments can be submitted through a dedicated email address at ATVCONNECT@LARSONDESIGNGROUP.COM


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Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40230
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Larson has published the conceptual design of the trail to connect Bloody Skillet to Renovo and Renovo to Whiskey Springs.

http://www.docs.dcnr.pa.gov/cs/groups/public/documents/document/dcnr_20033320.pdf


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good to see a nice proposal lets hope we can make this happen!

Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40236
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Since the article was published, some of that missing piece to the puzzle has been resolved.


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Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40237
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While I have not read all of this yet it looks exciting ! I really wish NY would their act together and promote the sport more..

Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40249
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GREAT NEWS FOR THE NORTHCENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA ATV INITIATIVE

The following language, directing DCNR to complete the Whiskey Springs-Bloody Skillet Connection and the ATV system connecting Clinton County with the NY Border, was inserted in the Fiscal Code and was signed by the Governor:

From HB 1929, Fiscal Code:
SECTION 17. SECTIONS 1720-E, 1725-E, 1727-E AND 1730-E OF
THE ACT ARE AMENDED TO READ:
SECTION 1720-E. DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND NATURAL
RESOURCES [(RESERVED)].
THE FOLLOWING SHALL APPLY TO APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES:
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(1) IN CONSULTATION WITH TH E DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION, DEVELOP, OPEN AND MAINTAIN AN ATV TRAIL
CONNECTING THE WHISKEY SPRINGS ATV TRAIL TO THE BLOOD SKILLET
ATV TRAIL BY UTILIZING EXISTING STATE ROADS AND STATE FOREST
ROADS BY APRIL 1, 2020.

(2) IN CONSULTATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION, IMPLEMENT THE FULL NORTHCENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA
ATV INITIATIVE AND CREATE A NETWORK OF ATV TRAILS CONNECTING
CLINTON COUNTY TO THE NEW YORK STATE BORDER BY UTILIZING
EXISTING STATE ROADS AND STATE FOREST ROADS BY APRIL 1, 2024.


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Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40251
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From the Express in Lock Haven:

ATV trails to be connected by 2020

Local news
Jun 30, 2018
SARAH PAEZ spaez@lockhaven.com




New bill could increase tourism in the county


LOCK HAVEN — Due to a hard-fought change in the state’s fiscal code, Clinton County will finally have an all-terrain vehicle trail connecting the Whiskey Springs Trail to Bloody Skillet by 2020.
State Rep. Mike Hanna (D-Lock Haven) had a hand in pushing the legislation through, said county Commissioner Jeff Snyder, who has been supportive of ATV tourism in the region.
Hanna said the project had been in the works since the era of former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who ended his term in 2011.
“We just decided it was time to get this,” he said.
The bill, an amendment to the fiscal code, says that appropriations for the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR) must include the agency’s collaboration with PennDOT to “develop, open and maintain an ATV trail connecting the Whiskey Springs ATV Trail to the Bloody Skillet ATV Trail by utilizing existing state roads and state forest roads by April 1, 2020.”
The amendment also provides for DCNR and PennDOT to “implement the full Northcentral Pennsylvania ATV Initiative” which would create a network of ATV trails from Clinton County to the New York State border by April 1, 2024. This network would link the Haneyville, Bloody Skillet, Snowshoe Rail Trail, Denton Hills and Whiskey Springs trails.
Central Mountains ATV Association President Henry Sorgen IV said his organization has been working on the initiative for the last four years, trying to connect all the ATV trails in northcentral Pennsylvania up to the New York State border. The organization has 1,300 members.
Sorgen said Hanna and State Sen. Joseph Scarnati (R-Brockway) were instrumental in making the necessary changes to the fiscal code. But, he said, it wouldn’t have been possible without support from township and borough councils, county government, regular citizens and CMATVA.
“It’s always been a team initiative,” he said.
CMATVA gave a presentation to the governor’s staff several months ago, which “started that ball rolling,” said Sorgen. “It’s all about tourism…that’s gonna be huge.”
PennDOT has a policy that ATV riders cannot use state roads. But state law says the district manager can authorize ATV usage on state roads. So, Sorgen said, the fiscal code amendment is a way to remedy that contradiction.
Hanna said the project will rely very little on state roads to connect the trails. DCNR is conducting a study through Larson Design Group to determine the best way to connect the trails without using state roads.
One place ATV riders will have to use a state road is the South Renovo Bridge, Hanna said.
Hanna was clear that the development of these trails will have no cost to taxpayers. “As far as trail development goes,” he said, it will all be funded by ATV registration fees. Right now, there are around $180,000 in that fund, said Sorgen.
“There’s no doubt about it, motorized recreation has a tremendous economic impact,” said Hanna. “The number of trucks, trailers and ATVs (on those trails on a holiday weekend) is phenomenal.”
Sorgen said CMATVA wants to make northcentral Pennsylvania’s trail network “the Hatfield McCoy of Pennsylvania.”
ATV tourism is a $1 billion industry in West Virginia, and Hatfield McCoy is one of the state’s most popular trails.
Sorgen said he is sure ATV tourism will be a boon to local residents in Clinton, Center, Potter, Elk and Cameron counties. In Germania, which is near the Denton Hills ATV Trail, he said, there is a small general store with one gas pump that used to make $1,000 a month in gas sales. After ATV travel was legalized there, the store’s monthly sales skyrocketed to 10 times that.
“That’s the potential,” he said. “What’s (ATV tourism) gonna do for little Renovo? It’s gonna boom.”
And, according to a study on ATV recreation in Clinton County done in 2015, the average rider spends approximately $1,400 in the county annually. Those surveyed said they would visit about five more times a year (about 12 times total) if connector trails were built between the existing trail systems and the surrounding communities. The study said increased visits would more than double the annual spending per rider.
Right now, Sorgen said, there are 1,800 miles of riding trail, and 49 percent of that is open to ATVs, whether that be on roads operated by DCNR, private property owners or township councils. But that is set to change soon, with the new state fiscal code amendment. Sorgen estimated the new law will add 200 miles of viable trail. And, he said, the existing CMATVA map will change once they submit the new map to PennDOT.
Hanna said for people who have concerns about motorized recreation, the Larson Group study is taking environmental impact into consideration.
“It’s not just “slap a trail on,“” said Hanna.
And Sorgen said he fully supports finding an environmentally friendly way to implement ATV trails that would connect the existing ones.
He lamented that while “98 percent of us want to follow the rules,” 2 percent of ATV riders don’t respect the land and want to offroad where it’s not allowed.
“We don’t want to be in wetlands,” he said. “We don’t want to be in natural areas where we don’t belong.”


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Re: ATV Connector Trail Study [Re: mikeexplorer] #40261
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Thanks for all this information Mike.

You clearly have your finger on the pulse of the hobby!

I am headed up to ride SSRT and Bloody Skillet in September. Can't wait for all these future changes to take effect.

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There is an error in the article, it said there is about #180,000 in the fund, what that was supposed to be is there are 180,000 registered ATV's in the state. The fund is actually much higher then that.

Are you planning to go to the pig roast? It is September 29th


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I'm planning to take my son to SSRT on 9/8- 9/11. Unfortunately , I have to plan around his school schedule .

The next trip after that is NWORC on Columbus Day Weekend. That's our last trip of the year.

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Well at least you can go, even if its not the event weekend.

I will be probably starting a new job next month so for the pig roast I will only be able to do an over night trip.

Mike


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Originally Posted By: mikeexplorer
Well at least you can go, even if its not the event weekend.

I will be probably starting a new job next month so for the pig roast I will only be able to do an over night trip.

Mike


Good luck with the new job Mike.

For many years I have always been the guy that never called in sick, never stayed home during a snow storm and always gave up more vacation time than I took. I have adopted a new philosophy recently.

Mark Twain said “ I have never let my schooling interfere with my education”. I want to be known for “ I will never let my career interfere with my ATVing”.

Hold on to that though after you put a few years in at the new job!

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Yeah its been a hell of a year, last year dad passed, then back in January I finally landed an engineering job, always wanted to be able to tell him I made it to be an engineer. Now granted jobs I had prior to that were good jobs and I did well, but he put me through engineering school and it would have been nice to tell him that.

Then in June I had an accident while working on a project and they fired me. I was not hurt bad thankfully and even came back to work the next day, for my dedication, they let me go, nice eh?

So while doing my unexpected job search, I came across this job which is actually closer to home and the manager is one I used to work with at my old place (not the one I got fired from, but a plant that closed) and he got me in for an interview and I will be doing the kind of work I like to do, it won't be an engineering job, but similar work. At this point I could care less about the title, as long as it is work I like to do, and a decent pay, im cool with it. However in the meantime, my mom finds out she has cancer and its advanced. During the interview they stressed about the 90 day probation period about not taking any time off. I had to level with them about my mom since at that point we knew she would not live 90 days. I was told they would work with me on that and the next day I get a call from the guy who knows me and wants me. They decided to hold off hiring me until I "Take care of the situation" then call them when I am ready. That was a really awesome thing they did for someone who isn't working for them yet. It allowed me to spend more time with her while she was alive.

We did have a trip planned to Potter county but she was in late stage and we canceled the trip. She died only two days after what would have been the trip, so I am glad we did cancel.

Just got done with their pre employment screenings and looks like I start the new job on the 10th. The only thing we will be kinda giving up is the SSRT pig roast. We usually make a long weekend of it and ride Bloody Skillet on Friday but I won't be able to take the day off. So we will just go down Saturday for the pig roast and stay overnight.

We did get away this past weekend for labor day, we camped at SSRT and just rode as we wanted to ride and relax. We needed a weekend away from home to get our minds off things. The past few weeks have been hard.

I also feel the way you do about work and life. I am done with working tons of overtime and not being able to do anything. This job will probably require some overtime, mostly staying to finish a job during the week and a weekend day now and then (provided I don't have anything planned) otherwise I want to go out riding, skiing and whatever I want to do. Life is too short to be dedicated to a job all the time. I don't need the overtime and I don't want it anymore. (at least working a lot of it, I will still do whatever is needed to solve a problem)

Mike


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Sorry to hear about all you have been through Mike. Tough stuff. I can both sympathize and empathize.

Last August my wife, son and I were away for a couple of weeks when my mom passed away. My son and I were riding Whiskey Springs, Bloody Skillet, Coudersport, Nworc and AOAA. We were on the final leg of the trip when we learned my mom passed. She had a long battle with Alzheimer's. .

This July my Mother in Law passed from Leukemia. In the middle of the two Moms passing, my uncle died.

My son and I just got back from Hatfield McCoy . I take every opportunity to take him riding while the time permits. You just never know what life is going to throw at you, and when.

Hang in there. It gets better with time.

Best of luck with the new job.

John

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